Sonics Rising: All Posts by Mike Baker

S Lander Street Bridge Project receives a Federal grant

2016-07-07T09:56:44-07:00

Federal Government grants $45 million toward S Lander Street Bridge Project, south of the proposed SoDo arena project.

Yesterday, KING 5's Chris Daniels reported that the Federal Government will grant $45 million toward the S Lander Street Overpass project's $140 million cost.

Seattle.gov

S Lander Street is an east-west corridor primarily used to move freight that crosses train tracks.

Murphy [SDOT] says $20 million from the levy approved last fall will go to the project. The state legislature dedicated $7 million. All told, contributions from BSNF, the Puget Sound Regional Council and the Freight Mobility Strategic Investment Board, there was $50 million dedicated to the project. SDOT already held an open house on the project. - KING 5's Chris Daniels, go read it.

The Port of Seattle has pledged $5 million.

It's interesting and amusing (and depressing) to think about May 2nd's street vacation vote by the city. Quite frankly, I don't know where else the city will get $35 million. But right now, I know where they won't.

Again, Daniels:

SoDo Arena investor Chris Hansen was slated to spend roughly $18-20 million on the project, in exchange for vacating Occidental Avenue, but the Seattle City Council ultimately decided to reject that exchange in May.

Does the city think it will look to existing businesses to fill that $35 million funding hole? The local business IS the Port of Seattle, and they've given all the pocket change they could find. Don't look toward the Mariners, because they've convinced enough people to stop asking them.

It seems to me that different choices could be made, and different outcomes could be had, different from the choice made on May 2nd.

KING 5 News Breaking: SoDo sports teams reach event scheduling agreement with Chris Hansen

2016-04-28T12:03:00-07:00

SoDo sports team reach event scheduling agreement with Chris Hansen, resolving a major obsticale for some on the Seattle City Council

Chris Daniels of KING 5 News is breaking this story, the major sports teams in SoDo have come to an event scheduling agreement. This was a key issue for Seattle City Council President Bruce Harrell heading into Monday's Full Council vote on the Occidental Avenue street vacation for the proposed SoDo NBA/NHL arena.

The Seattle City Council will announce Thursday it has brokered a deal between the Seattle Mariners, Seahawks, Sounders FC, and Chris Hansen’s Seattle Arena investment group on an agreement to manage time and traffic in Seattle’s SODO neighborhood. First and Goal, the Washington State Public Stadium Authority, and the Seattle Public Facilities District also had a hand in the negotiations.

The Mariners, in particular, had made the scheduling agreement a key argument in their opposition to the planned arena development, which would be built just south of Safeco Field.

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Two sources with knowledge of the agreement say it is "very comprehensive" and "detailed" and also covers game time easements and access. It also prohibits late afternoon events that would conflict with the Port of Seattle and Northwest SeaPort Alliance operations. The agreement also prevents events at Hansen's arena between the hours of 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. It also calls for a three-hour separation of events between the three potential venues, with some protocols for exceptions, such as for playoff games.

The negotiations have been ongoing for about a week and a half. Those same sources involved with the negotiations have described the Mariners representatives as "very good" and "fantastic" in hammering out the deal.

Seattle Arena: Seahawks, Sounders, Mariners reach schedule agreement (KING 5)

The agreement will be presented as an amendment to the street vacation legislation and voted on this coming Monday. If the legislation passes then the city will then issue Chris Hansen a Master Use Permit for the SoDo arena property. It is anticipated that arena opponents will sue, but the scheduling agreement with the Mariners, an opponent to the arena, could diminish the claim a lawsuit could have over event traffic.

There was a rumor on Twitter yesterday that an agreement could result in a 6-3 vote to approve the legislation. I think it is possible that the vote could reach 7-2, with Sally Bagshaw and Lisa Herbold as the "no" votes. Regardless, it does appear that the street vacation will be approved on Monday.

Go Sonics!

[This story was edited to add this link to the proposed amendment agreement, here.]

Poll

Monday

Can't get here soon enough!

399 votes

Means nothing to me, because it's still Monday.

67 votes

466 votes | Poll has closed

Sonics fans get a win, 4 - 1, and a step closer to a shovel ready arena

2016-04-20T09:49:46-07:00

Seattle City Council Committee on Sustainability & Transportation voted on Tuesday to move forward to vacate a street needed for a new arena.

On Tuesday, the Seattle City Council Committee on Sustainability & Transportation voted 4 - 1 to vacate a piece of Occidental Avenue in favor of building an arena. The legislation will be considered and likely voted on by the Full Council on May 2nd.

There are more hoops to jump through for the arena. The significance of the vote to vacate the street is that this 1st time the current council will voice its opinion on the proposed SODO arena. If a council member is opposed to the deal, and the return of the Sonics to Seattle, then this is your opportunity to kill it.

The sub-committee vote was 4-1

Sally Bagshaw - "No", Bagshaw flip-flopped support from 2012 "yes" on the original MOU vote, to 2016 "no" vote on the street vacation. She attempted to modify an amendment to prevent the street vacation from being able to be used for NHL hockey with no explanation. Maybe she hates hockey. There was Bagshaw in 2012. Here she is in 2016.

Tim Burgess - "Yes". He voted "yes" in 2012 for the MOU, too. He has some amendments for the final bill.

Bruce Harrell - "Yes". He voted "yes" in 2012 for the MOU, too. He wants amendments on lengthening the time between events on the same day and the length of time the street vacation is valid for (5 years, more, less?), for the final bill.

Mike ÓBrien - "Yes". He voted "yes" in 2012 for the MOU, too.

Rob Johnson - "Yes". He's new to the council. He did not vote in 2012 on the MOU.

The agenda with links to the presentation materials are linked here.

On to the Full Council, May 2nd

When this goes to the Full Council on May 2nd it will be the 1st time for the remaining council members to go on record with a vote. 1 of these 4 would have to vote "yes" to form a majority. The 4 council members are:

Kshama Sawant, she has not publicly indicated which way she will vote.

M. Lorena Gonzalez, she has not publicly indicated which way she will vote.

Debora Juarez, she has not publicly indicated which way she will vote.

Lisa Herbold, a likely "no" vote.

So, it is likely down to 1 of 3 votes.

Poll

How many of the remaining votes are "yes" votes?

4

32 votes

3

66 votes

2

213 votes

1

142 votes

0

31 votes

484 votes | Poll has closed

Does the Seattle Times oppose the NBA and NHL coming to Seattle?

2016-04-12T06:00:07-07:00

Hope isn't a plan.

What could possibly motivate such fierce and feckless opposition to an arena from the Seattle Times and the Port of Seattle? With no hope for a realistic alternative site magically appearing, and with an irrational attachment to a manufactured conspiracy, the claim that the Port of Seattle, Seattle Times, and management of the Seattle Mariners are somehow supportive of the Sonics returning and NHL hockey coming to Seattle is simply not true. Saying no to the SoDo arena plan is akin to saying no to it all.

Here is the alternative being sold as acceptable by arena opponents.

A remodeled Key Arena that doesn't have a private party championing it. Look around, nobody has stepped up and waved their arms to signal the ever-opposed Seattle Times.
A remodeled Key Arena with light rail service showing up in 2038.
A remodeled Key Arena that depends on destroying four years of work in exchange for "hope" that magic will happen.

Mike Baker

Hope isn't a plan

Hope isn't a plan.

So please, spare us all next Tuesday at the Seattle City Council Sustainability and Transportation Committee when you drop by to complain, don't claim you are in favor of the Sonics returning and NHL hockey coming to Seattle. You're just being insulting.

Poll

Given the alternative offered, opposition to the arena in SoDo is in effect opposition to the Sonics returning, and to the NHL coming to Seattle.

True

393 votes

393 votes | Poll has closed

Has the Seattle City Council been sufficiently threatened yet?

2016-04-05T08:56:00-07:00

Anybody can sue, and anybody is suing, knowing they are using a law that can't ultimately be applied.

On Monday, people that are unaware that the city is buying the arena property that will benefit from the street vacation of Occidental Avenue gathered together to threaten the City Council some more. They seem to both imply that the arena proposal does not meet current law while simultaneously threatening to change the current law into an effective deterrent from completing a property permitting process.

"This street vacation is a flat-out subsidy,’’ [attorney Cleveland] Stockmeyer said. "They’re giving public land to a billionaire.’’

-Seattle Times, 4/4/2016

Well, no. It is the city that is getting this so called subsidy because it is the city that will own the arena property.

"I guarantee you, if you walk down the street to Bank of America or Chase Bank, they’re not going to give you a loan if they make zero profit,’’ Stockmeyer said. "A zero-profit loan from the city is a huge subsidy.’’

-Seattle Times, 4/4/2016

Again, it isn't "zero profit." The city will be receiving/buying through their participation in financing a fully developed downtown piece of property in the Stadium District, next to Safeco and CenturyLink Fields, with all of the principal and interest paid by activity at the arena, and cash to crush and remove the arena when it reaches the end of its useful life. The principal and interest are repaid and the city is left with real property zoned for almost any commercial use, situated downtown. There is zero cash going out from the city, they are providing bond capacity. That's it.

Stockmeyer said shoring up the bylaw is crucial because the city has the ability to alter it at any time. The new measure, if passed, would require a two-thirds super-majority vote by council to change aspects of the bylaw.

-Seattle Times, 4/4/2016

The current law that ushered the exit of the Sonics in 2008 isn't actually very useful. So, he might need another one.

It was discovered by City Council staff in 2012 that the current law, Ordinance 122357 (I-91), was so poorly written that it could not be applied. So, the City Council, along with city staff, invented a fair value equivalent so they could be in the "spirit" of the law. Chris Hansen's proposal passed that invented test, too, to the satisfaction of the majority of the City Council, as well as one of the original I-91 authors, Chris Van Dyk.

This situation apparently has made I-91 coauthor, Cleveland Stockmeyer, unhappy. And being unhappy is all that is required for any Seattle citizen under I-91 to sue the city over any arena or stadium plan the city is involved in. His problem , other than an inability to divide a number by zero, is that the I-91 is incapable of being applied to Hansen's arena proposal.

Undeterred, and only partially aware that I-91 can't be applied to the SoDo arena proposal, a group of SoDo arena opponents has threatened to replace the ineffectual law with whatever it takes to keep the city from participating in a partnership that it found to return a fair value to the city by, the City Council's own definition.

On Monday, Stockmeyer and International Longshore Workers’ Union lawyer Peter Goldman warned that new lawsuits could be forthcoming if the city gives Hansen the street.

Flanked by longshore workers’ union vice-president John Persak, United Transportation Union executive Herb Krohn and State Senator Pramila Jayapal, Goldman said it was "smoke and mirrors’’ to claim Hansen isn’t getting subsidies.

-Seattle Times, 4/4/2016

There is the threat, and the people threatening. Haven't the opponents sufficiently threatened the city council, yet?

I think Pramila Jaylapal is looking for an issue to differentiate herself from Jim McDermott in her bid to take her new obstructionist views to Washington D.C. as a U.S. Congress Representative. She is leaving Olympia and the protracted fight with Republicans over 2/3 supermajority voting so she can attempt to impose a 2/3 supermajority vote on the Seattle City Council. Voters might overlook all this later, I won't.

Anybody can sue, and anybody is suing, knowing they are using a law that can't ultimately be applied. That's what Pramila Jayapal hitched her political wago to.

So let's just call that threat what it is, obstructionism. A threat to anybody that proposes to partner with the city, for any reason, will be deterred from proposing mutually beneficial partnerships. If somebody does actually perform to the spirit or letter of any law, as Chris Hansen has here, then opponents will just invent another set of criteria that isn't meant to be met, but as a means of obstruction.

If opponents to the city ever entering into any public/private partnership like this for mutual benefit wish to completely put an end to such partnerships then the Mariners and Seahawks should start shopping for a new east side locations, now. And the Seattle Opera, Ballet, and Symphony should recognize the only thing preventing them from getting lumped in with sports entertainment businesses is their companies non-profit status (how long that would be enough for them is unknown).

Do I think I-91 needs to be rewritten? Yes, a law that can't be applied is of no value to me.

The law should be revised to define fair value similar to how the council did in 2012.
It also should protect taxpayers from poorly planned city partnerships with non-profit entertainment companies, and not just for-profit companies.
It should also have requirement that allows any citizen to sue the city for an independent review of the criteria used by the city council if one I was not provided to the council (like the economic analysis found in the arena EIS).

We have elected representatives and we voted in criteria for them to apply on our behalf. Let's give the City Council some credit here. The Council still performed an evaluation to achieve the spirit of the law. The law should be revised to incorporate the criteria the City Council found so favorable in 2012.

Endless second guessing through lawsuits because somebody is unable to be satisfied with any outcome that results in the city saying yes to something is obstructionism. We do not need such destructive policies in Seattle, or politicians in Washington D.C.

Please move the Occidental Avenue street vacation forward.

Poll

Villanova beat UNC last night in the NCAA men's basketball final.

Yea they did

69 votes

Just shut up about it

13 votes

That was last night?

32 votes

114 votes | Poll has closed

Former Safeco Field Board member and Bellevue property owner Bob Wallace opposes the SoDo arena in Seattle

2016-04-04T12:23:44-07:00

Bob Wallace is an east side property owner that writes opinion pieces in the Puget Sound Business Journal (PSBJ). He wrote in an opposition piece on March 25th. Former Seattle mayor Mike McGinn wrote a response. Both pieces are behind the PSBJ firewall. I've posted highlights of the discussion for cheap people like me.

In the March 25th issue of the Puget Sound Business Journal, Bob Wallace, the east side property owner and former Safeco Field PFD board member, felt compelled to revisit his failed opposition/competition with the proposed SoDo arena project.

The short of it is that Wallace prefers that our "neo-socialist city council" not bother to continue the three-and-a-half year-long review of the proposal because it has been rushed, and other locations that have failed over the past decade might blossom out of the manure he is shoveling.

Vacation of the street [Occidental] is entirely premature, and given the composition of the neo-socialist city council, it is astounding that the proposal garnered a line on the agenda. A little history is in order.

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There are better locations for an arena should one be needed, and there is certainly no rush based on utterances from the NBA. So, City Council, please be good stewards of the public’s resources and defer discussion of vacating Occidental until there’s really something to talk about.

-Bob Wallace, PSBJ, 3/25/2016

Wallace then filled the ellipses above with a self-contradicting summation of historical low-lights that was both insulting to the people he wants to influence (to do nothing) and destroyed his own argument for stopping the process. He argued against the Seattle City Council ever entering into a mutually beneficial public/private partnership.

His trip down memory lane is used to criticize the east side, Bellevue, Renton, and Tukwilla for paying little more than arena development "lip service" to Clay Bennett in 2006, and ends his overall argument by saying some other site than SoDo will just magically become viable.

Wallace proposes that we wait for that failed situation from 2006 to happen now, and that the NBA will just walk in the front door. It apparently didn't occur to Wallace that the only thing preventing those locations, other than SoDo, from taking off over the past decade has been their lack of financial viability. Waiting around for a decade has produced exactly nothing except one viable plan in SoDo. But he thinks we should just stop, anyway.

Wallace's article also takes an odd twist when he takes a little poke at Mike McGinn in hindsight.

Given the voters’ repudiation, I find it remarkable that former Mayor Mike McGinn had the temerity to champion a new arena, and wonder how much it contributed to his demise.

-Bob Wallace, PSBJ, 3/25/2016

I guess Wallace would have a point if Ed Murray opposed the SoDo arena. I can tell you that I was at the Washington Bus Candidate Survivor Circus in 2013, both Mike McGinn and Ed Murray made the connection between support for the arena and younger voters. Richard Conlin was there, too. Wallace should go ask the former Seattle City Councilman how that election worked out.

Wallace's characterization of the nature of the proposal the Seattle City Council and King County Council voted in favor of in 2012 was baseless and hyperbolic.

What we have here is a real estate scam that would embarrass Donald Trump. Hansen overpays for some old industrial properties, hopes to induce the city to grant not only a generous up-zone but a gift of an important public right of way plus a huge financial contribution.

-Bob Wallace, PSBJ, 3/25/2016

Is that what the Seattle City Council and King County Council voted on?

Is that the agreement that will net Seattle $230 million dollars in net annual economic activity every year?

Are Bob's grapes sour?

I'll defer to Mike McGinn's April 1st response for the correction. McGinn listed 6 key facts. I've noted 3 facts below and his summation on the subject.

The arena will be developed and primarily financed with private funds. The public participation is designed to be self-financing and requires no new taxes or fees. The public financial participation will be repaid solely with arena- generated revenue that would not otherwise exist.

No public financial participation is triggered until an NBA franchise is acquired and located in Seattle via a binding non-relocation agreement.

The city will own the arena and land underneath outright, even after 100 percent of the public participation has been repaid.

This unprecedented financial deal is how the arena satisfies the requirements of Initiative 91, which regulates Seattle arena investments.

-Mike McGinn's response from 3/31/2016, PSBJ

The points I did not quote from McGinn were the specific requirements of the private investor to carry all the financial risk and guarantees to protect the city and county from construction overruns or tax shortfall. It's common knowledge by now.

Wallace even wrote that a Key Arena remodel would be good enough for hockey and the NBA.

In the meantime, studies have come to light which indicate that for a fraction of the cost of a new arena, the city’s albatross, Key Arena, could be rehabilitated as a fine venue for both hockey and, if we ever get a franchise, basketball.

-Bob Wallace, PSBJ, 3/25/2016

I've noticed that none of this has happened over the past decade. I've also noticed that the only reason anybody has give the future of Key Arena this attention is only because a superior alternative exists in SoDo. Seattle loses any leverage to resolve Key Arena's future if the council says no to SoDo and a miracle arena appears in the east.

The viability of a Key Arena remodel didn't escape Mike McGinn, either.

First, both leagues have made it clear that Key Arena is a non-starter – a position that has held firm for over a decade.

Second, no investor has ever stepped forward to make that kind of investment.

Finally, the Key Arena neighborhood has significant traffic and parking challenges.

-Mike McGinn's response from 3/31/2016, PSBJ

And don't forget the traffic. After all, it's a street vacation Wallace is opposing. McGinn cited the expert reports and careful analysis that led SDOT to recommend the street vacation of Occidental Avenue next to the Mariners parking garage, in support of the Stadium District in SoDo.

Concerns about traffic and the port are similarly unfounded. The Seattle Department of Transportation-commissioned multi- modal Transportation Access and Parking Study found that arena event traffic is well within existing parking, traffic and transit capacity of the area.

The SDOT Street Vacation recommendation submitted to the City Council last November said that the portion of Occidental Avenue proposed for vacation does not serve a critical function to the street grid or freight mobility. And the MOU creates a $40 million fund to improve transportation infrastructure in the Sodo area.

This is a good deal for Seattle and the region. An economic impact analysis found that the arena would have a "total net positive economic benefit" of between $230 million and $286 million a year to the economy of King County, with most of that money flowing through the city of Seattle’s economy.

Some have argued that Chris Hansen overpaid for his properties with the hope to induce the city to grant a generous up-zone. What these arena opponents fail to understand, or choose to ignore, is that the arena site is within the city’s Stadium District. Just as was the case for the two existing stadiums, no zoning changes are being sought or needed for this project to move forward.

After more than three years of study, both the Seattle Downtown Seattle Design Review Board and Seattle Design Commission unanimously approved both the arena design and vacation of Occidental Avenue. While some may oppose a new arena for political purposes, no examination of the facts supports an argument in opposition to siting the project in our Stadium District.

-Mike McGinn, PSBJ, 3/31/2016

I think a little more history is in order. Here is Bob Wallace in 2012:

Bob Wallace, a downtown Bellevue property owner and member of the Public Facilities District that built and oversees Safeco Field, said Bellevue’s hopes for an arena could be boosted if Hansen’s proposal runs into local opposition or if the financing plan appears to be unrealistic.

"I say the same thing for both sides of the lake," Wallace said. "I don’t think it’s a done deal on either side. What it’s going to require is one or more billionaires who, A, decide they want to own a team and, B, put up the money for a new arena."

-Bob Wallace, Seattle Times, 2/28/2012

Well, this didn't happen on Wallace's side of the lake. Now he's just being a sore loser.

Light Rail to Key Arena in 2038

2016-03-29T13:53:58-07:00

Light rail to Seattle Center might support a Key Arena remodel in the year 2038.

Last June, a report stating that a Key Arena remodel might be a viable option for the NBA and NHL drew the interest of many, but most notably by Seattle City Councilmember Sally Bagshaw. One obvious drawback to a Key Arena location is the increased traffic congestion, with so many businesses moving in to the nearby South Lake Union neighborhood since the Sonics left Seattle in 2008. A possible solution to the traffic problem would be the expansion of light rail from downtown to the Ballard neighborhood, passing near Seattle Center.

During her re-election campaign, Bagshaw stated how the addition of light rail supports her preference for Key Arena as a home for the NBA and NHL.

Bagshaw said she preferred the Seattle Center alternative to the proposed SoDo location because it would encourage transit riders to further utilize businesses and resources that are available in the Seattle Center.

It "is where we should have our arts and culture district," she said. "We have the ballet, opera, the Armory and we’ve got KEXP. If people can get there and get to an arena by light rail, KeyArena could be a place for us to be reestablishing the place where people can go for sports, as well."

- Queen Anne & Magnolia News, 9/29/2015

Bagshaw also mentioned how much traffic there already is and a light rail route is the only way Key Arena would make sense.

However, Bagshaw said a Key Arena renovation should only be considered if Sound Transit 3 is approved by voters next year, which could provide light rail, years down the road, to the Seattle Center area.

"ST3 only," she said. "If it goes there, it makes sense. There is so much traffic in that area (already)." The Environmental Review of Hansen's plan noted that there are congestion, traffic, and parking concerns that are far greater near Seattle Center than in SoDo.

- KING-TV, 9/25/2015

Seattle Center as a home for the NBA and NHL depends on light rail showing up.

Last Thursday, Sound Transit released their draft map of the next phase of light rail, showing the route. That's great for Key Arena proponents.

Ballard Route

What's wasn't so great was that the timeline for completing that route put the finish date in 2038. (Yes, that's a 3 in there.)

Light rail will eventually go to Seattle Center, and Key Arena, but 22 years from now. 22 years. Jamal Crawford will be 58 by then (probably still playing, though).

LR to Ballard 2038

Okay, let's pretend that 22 years to wait for light rail wasn't an absurdly long period of time to wait, and look a little deeper into Seattle's pet dinosaur, Key Arena. And let's pretend you are a little street-rat crazy for a minute.

Two things are true: Even if somebody stepped up today and offered to pay for a Key Arena remodel it would be 22 years before a Key Arena location is supported by light rail. And the reported and unsupported $285 million dollar price tag to remodel Key Arena has been described as "smoke and mirrors".

The fact remains that nothing has stopped anybody from raising their hand to volunteer to fund it. Nobody has, and prospects are nil. At best, a Key Arena remodel is a timeless and priceless fantasy, existing in a universe that operates in an atmosphere that desires stability and well reasoned possibility.

Okay, so maybe a remodel is out but a complete rebuild on the Key Arena were the council's choice, 22 years later. The option in the EIS for Key Arena site is not as a remodel but as a complete teardown and rebuild project. I suspected that a complete demolition of the 1962 World's Fair pavilion would meet with with some resistance from preservationists, so I contacted the Seattle Center Foundation to ask about demolishing Key Arena. I did not receive a direct response, but roughly a week later crosscut.com's Knute Berger happen to write an article that specifically addressed my question.

My answer

"…the report acknowledges that the roof of the Paul Thiry-designed arena is eligible for landmark status, and would almost certainly be landmarked if any major redevelopment was in the offing."

Crosscut, 11/23/2015

So, there will be no teardown of Key Arena. That option in the EIS is off the table. And Knute Berger's "winning play" for a Key Arena remodel is potentially viable, if somebody were actually interested in paying for it, but wouldn't happen until 2038.

The city council could say no and eat the reimbursement for the EIS from Chris Hansen. It doesn't get better. If the city council says no to an arena in SoDo, then an arena would sprout up someplace else long before 2038, outside of Seattle, relegating Key Arena to a white elephant.

Let's do the numbers

The new analysis of the Sodo arena shows that the the facility would have "a total net positive economic benefit" of between $230 million and $286 million a year to the economy of King County with most of the money flowing through the city of Seattle's economy.

But building the arena would hurt the maritime/industrial sector, which would lose up to $230,000 annually. Maritime officials have been vehemently against a Sodo arena– which has been proposed for a site near the Port of Seattle's Terminals 30 and 46 – since the idea surfaced.

- Puget Sound Business Journal, 5/7/2015

In both cases I am the taxpayer. I'll take the millions in net economic benefit over thousands in potential harm (real or imagined). It's that well-reasoned possibility of success for my city I choose.

Poll

2038

That's unacceptable

113 votes

Ok, if the NBA and NHL combined sports

10 votes

I'll get there by mass transit jet pack

59 votes

182 votes | Poll has closed

Live stream of Seattle City Council Arena Street Vacation Briefing

2016-03-15T17:33:03-07:00

Watch it here. [updated with archived video from the event.]

Updated with the archived video from the meeting.

And here is the video from 2pm on Tuesday, with WSA Properties pitching the street vacation benefits to the city's Transportation Committee. (Yes, there were two meetings.)