Seattle Arena: OVG arena financials released

KING5 news has reported that the City of Seattle has released more financial details of the Oakview Group’s bid to renovate KeyArena. This comes the day after Seattle Partners withdrew from the competition with a scathing letter decrying the city’s handling of the RFP process - in particular the redacting of OVG’s financial details.

Here are some key points of the release.

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I like it.

And what is it that you like ? You wanna break that down for us ?

ArenaCo naming

is just a slap in the face if I ever saw one.

Probably just a generic placeholder name, I'd think

So..

There is $50 million available as a tax credit to renovate that area and keep the roof line. Lots you could do with $50 million…

Exactly what stood out to me

I know nothing about historic designation tax credits. What triggers such an option to pursue a $50 million grant? When we see proposals and costs for alternative Key Arena projects, should we contemplate there’d be a $50 million contribution towards any?

I don't see why not

if opportunity arises.

Me too

I also know nothing, but why would the federal government pay $50 million to keep an ugly roof? I think the feds would look at this and laugh, laugh, laugh. I wonder who is on the hook if the grant doesn’t come through and would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that it is the city.

I'm gonna try to shut up until I hear a full explanation of how that $50m works

Right now, my brain’s cranking out ideas of what could be done with or started at Key for $50m plus tax revenue generated by SODO arena.

You could probably renovate the loading dock area, which would make it easier and more attractive for touring shows

Might also be able to do something to improve the acoustics. Then the city would have a pretty good 14,000 seat music venue, and an arena with access to transportation hubs for the NBA and/or NHL. And if the city got an NHL franchise that needed somewhere to play while the SODO arena was being built, then the city could collect rent which could be spent on, I don’t know, further upgrades to the Key or to Seattle Center.

It just seems weird

That you could get a federal grant to preserve a roof and then change the roof line.

Isn't changing of anything that is deemed historic subject to approval by the landmark board?

Again I don't know

But that seems totally reasonable.

Raises questions

They’re counting on $50M in federal grants? With government in its current state not sure I’d count on that. I imagine AEG will use their local connections to pick this apart.

Not sure AEG really could if they tried

after they threw the city under the bus like that.

Well, It Didn't Stop The Port, Did It?

That playbook is exactly what the Port used on the vacation vote, and it worked on Sawant, even after she labelled them a cesspool of corruption.
What makes you think that AEG can’t just hire a bunch of lobbyists and start the same backdoor whispering campaign, even after a letter bomb? It certainly already got Harrell and Burgess sitting up and paying attention…

Yeah, I'm having a hard time seeing the Federal government giving us $50 million . . .

As the old saying goes, hope is not a plan. The idea that the Feds will cough up $50 million, or that they city will collect taxes from Seattle Center only to pay that money back to OVG, seems fanciful.

Honest question: isn’t the Key currently generating a profit for the city? If so, why would we give that up, on top of having to forego $40 million in tax revenue, with no guarantee that the Sonics will return? I don’t get it.

Its only generating a profit cause the city hasn't made much needed arena upgrades

Just what are the "much needed arena upgrades" ? I really have no idea.

probably standard stuff

lightining TVs etc. They probably not done anything since approving the 95 renovations.

See above. They only have one loading area. They need more. Touring shows hate loading in there.

Right

Definitely need to add a couple more loading bays but its going to cost more than 50m that they can’t depend on actually getting.

they need a minimum of 6 more to hit the very minimum for big shows

Eight more to be world class and keep the big shows from thinking twice, plus the ramp in is an even bigger consideration.

The entire loading area

needs to be redesigned. Not just building 6 new loading docks. The street with access cant handle 6 trucks at a time

Yep, that's the ramp in

More than anything, the loading area limits what Key Arena can handle in terms of big shows.

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