We do not want to intrude on Sacramento fans forums or spaces. If some Kings fans want to talk about it I encourage them to come here and open the discussion in this thread. If it gets out of hand in any way I will shut it down immediately. If any Seattle fans want to taunt, be arrogant or just be jerks I will ban them. It is not the time or place.
I am trying to be visible and asking everybody to spread the message as much as possible that we should avoid intrusion into the Kings forums or conversations. Please spread that word.
There is no point in trying to convince them that this is right. There is no way to make “nice” conversation and I really understand that they will be insulted by outreach now.
Why is it so hard for us? Why do we have a need to process this by working with them, or reaching out? I don’t know but I know that it is hard for me to avoid. I feel sucked into it even though I know it is the wrong thing to do.
I would guess that some of them feel the same way and that reasonable discussion is possible. My hope is that having this forum may allow us to get it out of our system with the ones who want the conversation without appearing to be trolling or taunting those who do not.
Difficult circumstances but I have huge respect for the fans of Sacramento. It is not their fault.
Yup. It sucks. But sadly there is NOTHING any of us can say or do that will do any good. NOTHING. Even the best intentions come across malicious when dealing with emotions. Let them deal with this on their own. Remember exactly how we felt when having to deal with Okie fans. I didn’t want to hear a damn word from them. Sac fans should be granted the same courtesy. The whole thing sucks to high hell on many levels. Don’t make it worse by being a jerk or trying to be nice and pressing on the wound.
agreed. I’ve read their forums but declined to say anything.
Amen
Well said EJ, the last 5 years has been one long nightmare! I am happy as it gets my Sonics are coming home, but at the same time I understand the Kings fans pain..
Two things.
1) We truly cannot relate to what Sacramento is going through right now. We might know what it is like to lose a basketball team, but we have no clue what it is like to lose the only big league professional sports team in town. When the Supe’s left town, we had the Seahawks, Mariners and eventually Sounders to grieve with. Add Husky basketball/football and the average sports fan still had plenty of local teams to root for. Sacramento will literally have nothing. I cannot imagine what they are going through right now.
2) People try to draw contrasts between the Kings situation to how Bennett deceived Seattle in pulling the team from Seattle as a way of justifying the move as less hurtful. While it is undoubtedly true that Bennett duped everyone in Seattle, do you think Kings fans actually care? We went multiple years of hell and the end game was having the Sonics leave town. The kings have gone through multiple years of hell and the end game is the Kings leaving town. Regardless of how the Kings are leaving, they are still gone.
Good thoughts Numbers. I think you’re spot on here.
I hope I don’t get banned for this, but I just want to address Numbers here.
1) First and foremost, I was and still am a Sonics fan. Regardless of the fact we in Seattle have all these other teams to support, none of them replaced my Sonics and my love of pro basketball. While I feel for Sac Town losing their one and only team, I don’t relate to the rationale that one sport team leaves, no worries, you have three others to support. None of those other three are the Sonics or pro basketball.
2) It’s just a business.
I must say #2 is what cut into me the deepest the day the Sonics left. To be told it’s just a business when I had given so much of my life to that team, it felt like it was more than just business, it was a way of life for me.
exactly.
Oh no, I agree. For fans, it’s not a business. But for me, I’ve had to accept the fact that fans play little in the decision making of sports franchises. As much as I love the Sonics and bumping into players like Steve Scheffler at Costco, I’ve learned that these franchise moves are not personal, it’s just business. That is how I, myself have learned to live with this stuff.
Kings fans can bag on me all they want. I feel for them. I’ve gone to Kingsfans.com and SacTown Royalty just to gauge their thinking. I sure as hell haven’t had the audacity to post on their turf. I hated that when OKC fans did that to us.
It’s not completely over for them yet. KJ may pull a rabbit out of the hat. But if the league approves the sale before his presentation, what does that all mean for KJ and Sac?
Please, please, please do no post on the forums, sites, papers, etc. at all. Let them have their space. It’s not our place to reach out to them right now. We cannot OKC them.
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Completely agree - - let’s leave them alone. I’ve certainly perused their boards but will not post.
I didn’t mean to make it sound like I went trolling to their sites to try and communicate…just to kind of “peek” into the window and see how they’re doing.
Definately have no desire to even try to talk to them and completely understand if they feel a hatred towards us right now.
Oh I know. Just throwing it out there to make sure. I don’t want a troll war starting or anything like that.
Good take on the 30 mil. deposit. More brilliant negotiating by Chris Hansen
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2013/1/21/3900182/sacramento-kings-sale-seattle-chris-hansen-deposit
Can we please leave this thread alone and for the Kings fans if they do come?
We have places to post on right now.
I didn’t think that this was “Exclusive” to Kings fans. I certainly wasn’t trying to rub it in. Just posting the facts from the Sac Bee.
Some practical advice. After the Sonics left town in 2008, I shunned spending on any Sonics gear because I was loath to give Clay Bennett my money after stealing my team. After the initial bitterness subsided a year or so later, I came to regret abstaining from the closing for business sale at the Sonics team shop.
Eh, I bet we’ll get a total makeover style-wise. If Chris is involved at all, I know it will be stellar. Get your gear then.
I’m referring to Kings fans facing a similar situation. I say, buy the Kings gear.
i’m not going to engage king fans. i certainly would NEVER tease them, but neither will i try to expiate any nagging guilt by saying ‘ooh, i hope you know how i feel your pain,’ because that’s too patronizing. i’m going to give them the respect of letting them communicate with their fan community, while i stick to mine. but there will be jerks who think that part of the fun of getting back into the league is mocking the fans who are left out. and there will be sac-town loyalists who see this and say, ‘i’ll never forgive seattle for the way they treated us.’ and seattle loyalists who try to say, ‘oh, no, you don’t understand. . .’ ad infinitum.
so, our forthcoming redemption is coming at a price of their forthcoming crisis. so be it — that’s nba rules.
an expansion team would avoid it, but that’s not seattle’s decision, nor hansen’s. chris is doing what he has to do to get his hometown back into his favorite game. and i am thrilled for us, although not unmindful of king fans’ hurt.
I am going to re-open my Sonics gears boxes that I have put them away in July 2008. I am grateful that Sonics is coming back and bring our memories back that was stolen from Clay Bennet.
I agreed on giving the Die-Hard Sacramento Kings fans the space to deal. But I wanted to say this that they will be welcome to Seattle to watch the game anytime.
I can not wait for the ticket to go on sale after the BOG approves!
The bottom line is Sacramento is fortunate that they have had an NBA team. I feel that they will have an inside track on getting a team back in the future if they do things right. That being said let us remember all the emotions we have gone through and be thankful the situation in Seattle has evolved to this wonderful day. Go Sonics!
I think the fanbases of both teams have been very respectful to each other so far. Nobody wants to lose their team and it’s a very emotional subject, but from everything I have seen so far, both sides have been very mature about it.
Kevin Johnson > Greg “fat head with no brain” Nickles
Kevin Johnson squeezed an extra 2 years out of the Kings down in Sacramento while sowing the seeds for the NBA’s return. Up here Mayor Fat Head w/ No Brains let the Sonics leave 2 years early without doing squat to sow the seeds for its return.
Greg Nickles should be banned for life from all public employment. Let some chump idiot in the private sector hire this incompetent waste of space instead.
Shawn Kemp is coming up on Softy’s show in just a couple minutes
The Sacramento Kings will return in a few years as long as they pass the proposed arena deal from last year. When the NBA gives final approval to move the team to Seattle they will announce a “Cleveland Plan” for Sacramento. Sacramento will get to keep the team name maybe the team history. This will be a double win for the NBA. They get the Seattle market right now plus don’t look like the bad guys for leaving Sacramento. A win win.
Most likely the Milwaukee Bucks will relocate once they fail to get a new arena 4 years from now. Sacramento is too good of a market to go without NBA and it would look awful for the NBA to abandon a market that passed an arena but were screwed over by bad ownership.
I agree, and if they are up for it, I’d be thrilled to see them take the Thinder when their lease is about to run out and Bennett starts talking about a “new arena”.
It just business Clay, only business.
This post gets two thumbs up!
I have no worries, but here’s a nice reminder; “@ChrisDaniels5: Seattle City Councilmember Tim Burgess suggested to me that, if needed, Seattle could exempt new franchise from I-91, as it did w/WNBA Storm”
And I suggested he do that many times.
They could and should pass a stand alone bill.
New thread is up for Sonics fans.
If any Kings fans do stop by…I’d be interested to know if there is a point where the City is giving up too much to keep the team? I think most people from the outside were pretty amazed that the City of Sacramento was willing to give away so many of their revenues to get the place built. Now, I would assume they’d be giving up even more and have to pay all the extra costs if there was a lawsuit of some sort.
So…is there a point where you would want the City to act in their financial best interest or is it all in on the Kings staying?